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September 17th, 2009 FibMaster

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Originally posted by “dstaples”; 08-04-2009, 10:30 PM

 

Hi Neal, or anyone else, I wonder if you could help me out with this one, I am still a bit unsure of how to enter a trade exactly.

I have watched the videos, trading the trend etc. but am still a bit confused.

The idea is to buy dips or sell rallies on the LTF but if you wait for a TRSI cross (grey over blue) then it seems you invariably end up buying near the top of a short term rally. Is the idea to buy at the 1st open after the TRSI closes with grey above blue ?, or should you enter at the fib or SK level on these 10,15 30 min etc. LTF’s.

Also, on the HTF, are we just looking for the TRSI to be up (or down) and with no near term resistance or should we be looking for this after a bounce off an SK level on the HTF ?.

Any help with this would be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks

Dorian


Originally posted by “FibMaster”; 08-05-2009, 04:51 PM

 

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Attached is the chart with TRSI expanded.

In a chart with sudden down-moves (thrust) you are foreced to trade lower time-frames. The only way to get into a fast moving market is to drop to lower time-frames. On the higher time-frames, the sudden drop has already transpired by the time you notice it. So in this case TRSI is not able to determine a change in direction from weak rally to sudden drop until after is has happened.

The solution is to go even lower, to say 5 minute charts. I have not checked in this case, but that is the normal situation for markets which make sudden thrusts.

The vertical red lines on this chart show the TRSI short triggers, when it is able to detect a change in direction (downward). Until the vertical red lines, that chart is in a counter-trend mini-rally. To trade this chart you really need to go to a lower time-frames to catch the little moves, or just take the 4 hour trigger and ride it out (for the bigger move). The 15 minute chart does not have enough resolution to detect the change in momentum, until after a sudden drop.


Originally posted by “Justin”; 09-16-2009, 11:56 PM

 

I don’t care who you are, that’s some good stuff right there!
Regards,
-Justin


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